@English Catholic…Thanks for your reply and your written considerations. Your sincerity comes through loud and clear. I do appreciate them and your time and effort although I cannot agree.

I am not reducing the Catholic Faith to one issue as you say. I am defending against the following…Attempted murder of Jesus Christ (2500 times a day) “whatever you do to the least of these you do to me” Matt 25:40.

I am defending Jesus Christ from being beheaded, disemboweled, ground into lumpy liquid or having his brain sucked out.

If a person does not love babies who they have seen, they cannot love God who they have not seen.

For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen. 1 John 4:20

@chris griffin Agreed. But everything you said does not nullify the efforts of these men. Also, it would be helpful to me if you answered my question: "The contraceptive mentality leads to abortion. Many over-the-counter contraceptives are abortifacient in nature - do you and your family boycott every doctor/pharmacy/supermarket that prescribes or sells these abortifacients? All hospitals in the USA and UK are pro-abortion. If one of your children was dying from some illness, would you refuse to take him/her to a hospital because you knew abortions were performed there, or abortifacients issued there?"

@English Catholic...Thanks for your kindness. You are right, that is a serious problem. More to the point is that somewhere around 80% of abortive women are unmarried and fornicate, many routinely, then abort since the baby is completely anathema.

Here is the eternal consequence of abortion spelled out in black as sin and blood red...
'For he had filled Jerusalem with innocent blood, and the LORD was not willing to forgive." 2 Kings 24:4.

Today and everyday for hundreds of years people have tried to murder Jesus and babies blood is filling the town just like the Bible. Need I say more? Can I say more? Could anyone say more?

I am surprised that the reality that Jesus is being murdered millions of times doesn't elicit more of a response from you.

@chris griffin How do you know it doesn't elicit a response from me? You don't know what I do? As far as anything you said, the only things I objected to, was you saying you didn't believe approved Marian apparitions solely because Our Lady hadn't specifically mentioned abortion (could the Mother of God and Queen of Heaven be so thoughtless?) and calling the efforts of these Australian men 'useless' just because they don't specifically mention abortion - but as I have explained, these things are all promoting the Faith, and a pro-Faith culture necessarily fosters a pro-life culture.
Put it another way. I went on a pro-life March years ago in London. We prayed and all ended up throwing flowers into the River Thames - the same amount of flowers as abortions that took place in the UK that year (I think). The most remarkable thing for me was that we were joined by liberal Cardinal Basil Hume (RIP) who was not usually noted for being present at such events. Now, to the best of my recollection, euthanasia - which is an increasing problem worldwide - and possibly about to be legalised in the UK - wasn't mentioned at that event at all. Were any of our efforts 'useless' because euthanasia wasn't specifically mentioned? No. In the same way, no prayer, or Faith event, is 'useless' just because abortion isn't specifically mentioned. Abortion isn't specifically mentioned during the prayers of the Mass (in either NO Masses or TLM Masses) - does that make Mass 'useless' or Our Lord guilty of the sin of omission? Of course not. There are many good people doing much good work at all parts of the pro-life spectrum (from contraception/abortion to euthanasia). Sometimes family problems arise which necessitate a response. My mother has dementia and other health issues. The hospitals she has been to all have a pro-euthanasia mentality and rush for you to sign DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) forms as soon as they are admitted - which I have always refused to do as her son and Power of Attorney. I have also told them I will be monitoring her medication intake like a hawk. I might not have made myself popular, but at least my mother has come out of hospital alive each time. Others aren't so fortunate. Even though it is illegal in the UK, euthanasia is done on the sly in many ways (usually through drugs like benzodiazepines or opiates). I have had to fight doctors, hospitals and even some members of my own family, tooth and nail, to ensure my mother is not craftily euthanised. Thanks be to God, she is out of the hospitals now and is safe. Don't tell me about fighting for pro-life issues! I lived them for the past years! It might be at the other end of the spectrum to abortion, but it is no less important.
For the record, I am a member of a pro-life organisation, regularly write to MP's about abortion etc, and do what I can in between dealing with the issues of daily life. @chris griffin I admire your zeal and passion for this issue, and I thank God we have people like you, but please, please don't insult the Queen of Heaven, or write off the efforts of others just because they might not specifically mention abortion, or appear not to. Remember what Scripture says - I can't remember the exact words, but the gist is 'one body, many gifts'.

@English Catholic…Thank you for the insightful post. Your history tells of your devotion to the Lord and your mother. My mother took 6 months of agony to die of cancer so I can appreciate your concern and congratulate you and your mother for God’s blessing.

I refer to Pope John Paul II… “Above all, the common outcry, which is justly made on behalf of human rights-for example, the right to health, to home, to work, to family, to culture- is false and illusory if the right to life, the most basic and fundamental right and the condition for all other personal rights, is not defended with maximum determination.” Christifideles Laici (1988), no. 38

Abortion is so entrenched worldwide that “maximum determination” aka radical action is required. If you are a President of Bank of America you should quit your job and sell you possessions and follow Jesus as in Mark 10:21… “Go, sell everything you own and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow Me." Everybody knows where and when babies are murdered. It is at the closest abortion mill, starting at 9am 6 days a week.

Almost everyone can play a role in defeating abortion: from being on the sidewalk in front of the abortion mill talking to the clients saving them from committing murder and the baby from being murdered. Perhaps help at the local Crisis Pregnancy Center or collect donations for diapers or recruit at Church functions about stopping abortion and on and on and on.

I spent 45 minutes with my local Bishop on pro-life. There were 45 priests locally in the diocese and I recommended that one rotating priest could be assigned to be at the abortion mill every day from 9 till 12. This is the busiest abortion mill in the Southeast. He looked at me like I was crazy. All he did was sing a little louder.

God says "they have filled this place with the blood of innocent children." Jer 19:4.

Thank you and God Bless you.

@chris griffin All of which I understand. But let me ask you - have you quit your job and sold all your possessions for this cause? Like you expect the President of the Bank of America to do? I note you evaded answering the comment in my previous email - "The contraceptive mentality leads to abortion. Many over-the-counter contraceptives are abortifacient in nature - do you and your family boycott every doctor/pharmacy/supermarket that prescribes or sells these abortifacients? All hospitals in the USA and UK are pro-abortion. If one of your children was dying from some illness, would you refuse to take him/her to a hospital because you knew abortions were performed there, or abortifacients issued there?" Please can I have an answer to that - and to the previous question (i.e have you quit your job and sold all . . . etc). Then I might be a little more able to understand where you are coming from. My only concerns are the issues of denigrating the Mother of God and men/women who gather for Faith events, who don't specifically mention abortion.

@English Catholic …Yes, I go to hospitals and drug stores for medical help. There is no alternative.

I went to the abortion clinic from 8am until noon then went to lunch then my second shift job as a grocery clerk till 10pm for 18 years. This was my way of life because nobody else would help me.

It is a lie to say that I denigrated the mother of Good.

“I doubt there are 1000 men willing to walk and pray against abortion.” Is a way of saying that very few Catholics are actively pro-life, and I wish they would show as much concern for babies being murdered and mothers committing murder (the very next day) as they do for processing the night before. Procession at night but not trying to save babies from being murdered is useless.

Catholics have every right to not believe in the apparitions for reasonable reasons of which silence on 2500 babies murdered every day is quite reasonable. Evidentially you don't see 300 million murdered babies worldwide since 1973 as serious.

You said you needed my answer on hospitals and drugs. I gave it to you, now you chicken out on the discussion.

@chris griffin To say things like 'I don't see 300 million murdered babies as serious' is unfair, uncharitable and becoming a little bit silly, in view of what I have written about myself already. As for the apparitions bit - correct. You don't have to believe in apparitions even if they are approved, but to say, I'm not believing in them because they don't say what I want them to say, is a trifle arrogant. Heaven tells us what to do - not the other way round. Our Lady gave us the remedy to save our souls and the souls of others in Fatima. By obediently living Her Fatima message, how do you know that you aren't bringing an end to abortion more quickly, than by methods chosen by yourself? Our Lady promised that if Her requests were fulfilled, a period of peace would be given to the world. I can't imagine a 'period of peace' where babies would still be getting slaughtered every minute, so I can only assume that abortion will be outlawed.
I'm not 'chickening out' on anything. I just don't see where this conversation is going. I agree with a lot of what you say, but not all of it. You appear to see absolutely everything through the prism of abortion, and I wonder if you are a little fixated about it. Please keep up your pro-life work, and if you don't already, live the message of Fatima. But all I asked was that you desist from calling other people's efforts 'useless' - when they are not (what if that St Joseph march brought some souls back to the Church and thereby saved them - would that be 'useless'?) - and also expecting Our Lady to bow to your request for a specific heavenly message condemning abortion, when none has come so far from any approved apparition and I don't consider it my place to berate Our Lady, or ignore what She requests, because She hasn't explicitly given me something I asked for. It is not necessary anyway. The Church has condemned abortion - publicly - many, many times. The fact that no-one listens is largely because they have no Faith. As I said before, a pro-Faith culture comes first and necessarily fosters a pro-life culture. So Faith events are very important - even if not specifically mentioning abortion - for this reason.

HOW IT BEGAN

In April 2013, three workmates set out on a pilgrimage they called the ‘Aussie Camino’. On the way they discussed the history, customs and traditions of the ancient pilgrim trails and asked ‘Why are there only caminos in Europe and the Holy Land? Why can’t we have one here? Now that we have a saint of our own, St Mary MacKillop. Where would it begin and end?’

Aussie Camino | A camino experience marking significant places in the life of Mary MacKillop and Julian Tension Woods.

@parangutirimicuaro Yes, of course. To the best of my knowledge, we have nothing like this in England, except for the annual Rosary Crusade of Reparation in London, where men and women process from Westminster Cathedral to the London Oratory, and the statue of Our Lady of Fatima is carried through the streets, while the rosary is prayed and hymns are sung. Thousands turn up, but the UK media never reports it. Here are short videos: 2022 Rosary Crusade of Reparation 2022 and 2023 The Rosary Crusade of Reparation-Westminster Cathedral to Brompton Oratory-14 October 2023 London UK