Can anyone provide a good Catholic answer to the atheist quote
If a god says he loves you but will torture you for an endless eternity if you do not love him back, is that really love?More
If a god says he loves you but will torture you for an endless eternity if you do not love him back, is that really love?
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Normand Thomas
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Let's think about it this way. It's not the policeman that passed through the red light, but the driver.
So the policeman is not at fault, but the driver.
When the policeman gives the ticket, the driver did something wrong and gave "himself" the ticket
So the policeman did no wrong.
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God is love and will not curse the way people think about "curse". But God sees us hurting ourselves. We are the …More
Let's think about it this way. It's not the policeman that passed through the red light, but the driver.
So the policeman is not at fault, but the driver.
When the policeman gives the ticket, the driver did something wrong and gave "himself" the ticket
So the policeman did no wrong.
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God is love and will not curse the way people think about "curse". But God sees us hurting ourselves. We are the ones hurting ourselves. With the liberty God gave us he let's us free to Damn ourselves or become saints.
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So, it comes to this:
Do "we" let God Love us, or do "we" shy away from God.
Shying away from God, we are hurting ourselves in evil.
In this, we are the only ones responsible for our sainthood or damnation.
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Then before deciding a person "is" an atheist, please have a good chat with him, and think a little more.
We have the same answer, in the end.
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Great question, by the way.
So the policeman is not at fault, but the driver.
When the policeman gives the ticket, the driver did something wrong and gave "himself" the ticket
So the policeman did no wrong.
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God is love and will not curse the way people think about "curse". But God sees us hurting ourselves. We are the ones hurting ourselves. With the liberty God gave us he let's us free to Damn ourselves or become saints.
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So, it comes to this:
Do "we" let God Love us, or do "we" shy away from God.
Shying away from God, we are hurting ourselves in evil.
In this, we are the only ones responsible for our sainthood or damnation.
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Then before deciding a person "is" an atheist, please have a good chat with him, and think a little more.
We have the same answer, in the end.
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Great question, by the way.
Maria Lylyander
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You could answer: imagine God were a person you do not love. Now imagine this person forces you to spend not eternity, but just a week with him. Would that be right? Is that love? No, it is even punishable.
God so loves us He gives us free will and will not impose His will on us.
If we know of Him in this life and reject him, how and why should we spend the next life with Him?
The bible also says …More
You could answer: imagine God were a person you do not love. Now imagine this person forces you to spend not eternity, but just a week with him. Would that be right? Is that love? No, it is even punishable.
God so loves us He gives us free will and will not impose His will on us.
If we know of Him in this life and reject him, how and why should we spend the next life with Him?
The bible also says that He will judge those differently, who never heard of him.
God so loves us He gives us free will and will not impose His will on us.
If we know of Him in this life and reject him, how and why should we spend the next life with Him?
The bible also says that He will judge those differently, who never heard of him.
mccallansteve
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The souls of the damned and the demons hate God with a hatred that we cannot fathom. They hate the sacrifice that Christ endured for them and totally reject Him. Their eternal punishment is just. God's mercy is even in hell as the punishments they get are far less than they deserve.
It is simply your choice, if you choose reject Love. You chose to reject God eternally. Love requires a response and has rules. St. John 14:15 If you love me, keep my commandments. God knows all things and He knows ultimately what is good for us. It’s like society if you want to keep out of jail, keep the law. If you want to stay alive on the roads, obey the road rules.
The Wandering Recluse
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I think it is a simple answer. We weren't created by God "to not love God". We were created by God, to love God, it is our sole purpose. What the quote is suggesting is that somehow God should allow an alternative option to loving Him, otherwise it is God's fault. God sets the rules, we do not, and if we choose to not love Him, we spend an eternity without Him.
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The question commits the emotive fallacy, rather it is people who send themselves to hell, not God. Thus, they are given what they want. Love doesn't hold anyone captive against their will.
No, it would not be love. We love God because He is the perfection of all things; the author of all beauty; an infinitely marvelous Creator who is nothing but love. It is the rejection of all of this that warrants the furthest possible extreme from God. Satan looked into the perfectly innocent face of all that is good and said no. All who follow Satan belong to him and spend eternity with him. …More
No, it would not be love. We love God because He is the perfection of all things; the author of all beauty; an infinitely marvelous Creator who is nothing but love. It is the rejection of all of this that warrants the furthest possible extreme from God. Satan looked into the perfectly innocent face of all that is good and said no. All who follow Satan belong to him and spend eternity with him. Finally: going to heaven is easy. God has told us exactly how. The greatest sorrow of hell is to have been so incomprehensibly stupid as not to believe Him.
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I have two possible responses.
The first is that a person may show his love for God by keeping his Commandments without necessarily being vocal about it as these three passages prove…
For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments1 John 5:3
If you love me, keep my commandments John 14:15
If you keep My commandments, you will remain in My love John 15:10
Second, is the more authoritarian …More
I have two possible responses.
The first is that a person may show his love for God by keeping his Commandments without necessarily being vocal about it as these three passages prove…
For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments1 John 5:3
If you love me, keep my commandments John 14:15
If you keep My commandments, you will remain in My love John 15:10
Second, is the more authoritarian response that says God is the creator of all things including you, and you own him your life and your love, and if not, God will reject you as you rejected Him.
The first is that a person may show his love for God by keeping his Commandments without necessarily being vocal about it as these three passages prove…
For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments1 John 5:3
If you love me, keep my commandments John 14:15
If you keep My commandments, you will remain in My love John 15:10
Second, is the more authoritarian response that says God is the creator of all things including you, and you own him your life and your love, and if not, God will reject you as you rejected Him.
Maria Lylyander
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You could answer: imagine God were a person you do not love. Now imagine this person forces you to spend not eternity, but just a week with him. Would that be right? Is that love? No, it is even punishable.
God so loves us He gives us free will and will not impose His will on us.
If we know of Him in this life and reject him, how and why should we spend the next life with Him?
The bible also says …More
You could answer: imagine God were a person you do not love. Now imagine this person forces you to spend not eternity, but just a week with him. Would that be right? Is that love? No, it is even punishable.
God so loves us He gives us free will and will not impose His will on us.
If we know of Him in this life and reject him, how and why should we spend the next life with Him?
The bible also says that He will judge those differently, who never heard of Him.
God so loves us He gives us free will and will not impose His will on us.
If we know of Him in this life and reject him, how and why should we spend the next life with Him?
The bible also says that He will judge those differently, who never heard of Him.